Shane, your point is well taken. If you are interested in the weird stuff that MFMP is finding, you will find more of it in this video. This presentation is to a general audience, perhaps to give a status report to laypeople on what they've done with the all of benefactors' money over the preceding few years. SAFIRE Project The International Science Foundation (a front group of EU supporters who falsely claim to neither support nor oppose [20] the Electric Universe hypothesis) says that they provided $2,200,000 USD to fund a laboratory experiment to test the EU claims regarding the nature of the Sun. The SAFIRE project got kicked in the teeth with LENR. One acknowledges it and then seeks to move beyond it if one can.As far as I know, most of the great scientists in history, even if many have been independent and sometimes maverick thinkers, were fully embedded in the mainstream scientific discussions going on, including Fleischmann and Pons, They were part of the larger scientific community.The point about flashiness of presentation is a good indirect detail to take note of. Then, after the probe was thickened, and ceramic coated (reinforced), to prevent vaporization, it (probe) melted, and fractured "into layers". The SAFIRE PROJECT was designed to TEST under tight laboratory-controlled conditions the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE/SUN THEORY.

That's interesting information. To observe that LENR research may have been treated unfairly is not a carte blanche to say to oneself that anything that scientists frown upon is probably being treated unfairly.In this case, we have a flashy presentation following a somewhat ambling and unusual script with few definite conclusions, and we have a large conference, and a number of people interested in a topic I've only vaguely registered in the past, and the researchers up on the stage appear to have come upon some benefactors who perhaps have given them plenty of funds and a charge to look into the empirical basis of electric universe theory. brings a lifetime of experience in plasma physics, both theoretical and applied; he is also extremely skilled at writing peer reviewable papers in this field.was one of the few at the 2012 EU Conference who understood exactly where Monty Childs was coming from. Dr. Paul Anderson (SEM/EDS expert), after methodically listing the unexpected, unaccounted for, elements found in concentrations near the center of the melted, and fractured Tungsten Languir probe, mentions that some of the same results are being seen by the LENR community.As usual, for the skeptics in the audience, he had to say: "take it at face value", but went on to say that those like Mitsubishi are seeing transmutations, and while small..."they are real". Watch Queue Queue And it gives us a vague sense of whether their findings, whatever they are, are going to make an impact on the larger scientific scene: we can conclude that they probably will not.With that context established, one's attention is freed up to focus in on the specifics of their observations as they relate to LENR so that they can be considered on their merits.Well said also, but when you start off saying "outcast system of thought" when referring to SAFIRE, are you not admitting some bias before even delving into the data? This was from only 184 Ws input. A Degree of Freedom Systems for Everyman By Alan Charles SturtMethod and Apparatus for Heat Production By Alan Charles SturtNeutrons in Atomic Nuclei : an Alternative Model of Atomic StructureVery nice find Axil! Talbott is one of the key proponents for the Electric Universe model, and the initiator and co-producer of the annual conferences, now streamed worldwide.Chief Science Officer, Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin, Austin, TX I do not think one can rid oneself of bias.

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